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All salmon fishing banned on West Coast

Food – Salmon fishing was banned along the West Coast for the first time in 160 years Thursday, a decision that is expected to have a devastating economic impact on fishermen, dozens of businesses, tourism and boating.

Tags: Commercial Salmon fishing, sport fishing, West coast, complete ban

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Those of you who like to eat Salmon can expect to pay more. I wonder if 9 Lives will boost the price on my cat's favorite food.

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Not to worry, I'm sure there's no salmon in there anyway. Me, I'm a sucker for that Copper River stuff.

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Mmmm copper river, i live off that stuff when it's in season. One of the benefits of living in the PNW, we get it super cheap since most of it comes through our ports on it's way to the rest of the country. Can literally buy it straight from the docks for a few weeks each year.

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Libs, That's not Salmon in there it is old newspapers mixed in with parts of Siegfried and Roy. As the slogan says "Your cat will jump for joy when he sinks his teeth into Siegfried and Roy!"

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Wasn't it actually a matter of the guy was having a seizure and the cat was dragging him offstage or something like that? It could tell he was in trouble and reacted like it would with one of its young, I think was what came out afterward.

Yeah, just did a quick check: the other guy thinks the tiger could tell he was having a stroke and was trying to carry him off stage. Nothing definitive, though. Possible urban legend, too.

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I like salmon and will still buy it no matter what the price!

One of my grandson's went to Alaska to help stock salmon! I suppose that I can have him start sending me salmon. He has decided to stay in Alaska! I might even have to take a vacation there in a year or so!

Thanks libs!

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Is he doing it like one of my heros, Dick Proenneke?

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No, not yet, but he might! The job was temperary with the government. He is 20 and has fell in love with Alaska! I wanted to do what your hero did, many years ago! I had books on building a long cabin(my dream home), learned to cook different from modern times and all the goes with living in the wilderness. I researched what plants were eatable, homesteading and more. I lived through the adventures of Dick Proenneke while reading the book! Good book!

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Well I guess the price of the farm raised salmon will increase now. I really like salmon.

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Endoscopy doubt it.

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My DR has me eating Salmon 2X week, but she cautioned "no farm raised fish."

http://www.expressnews.ualberta.ca/article.cfm?...

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The commercial salmon fishery off the Calif and Oregon coast do not amount to much. The majority of the commercial salmon fishery is in Canada and Alaska. Not to worry James the Copper River Red fishery is in no danger. Also you have good taste. Red salmon especially Copper River Reds are the best. I do feel sorry for those commercial fisherman though.

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I wonder if any tribes are affected. That could get dicey given tribal fishing rights in most areas and tribes being sovereign nations!

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My bet is they get a waiver

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They do, or at least have other years where salmon fishing bans have been put in place.

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I know in the Great Lakes tribes pretty much can do as they please, although there are some agreements in place. Still, there have been some shots fired and nets cut loose when the sport and commercial fishermen and tribal fishers disagreed on who had what legal rights.

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I took a fishing trip to Hayward, Wisconsin a few years ago.

Speaking of signs, the local Ojibwa tribes were out at every dock we went to during our trip. I was told they were monitoring the catches everyone brought in.

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The Indians here in Central Oregon pretty much do what ever they want during the runs,fish wheels,traps,nets and so on.

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In northern Michigan, there have been accounts of tribal fisherman tossing back dead walleye and other species caught in their gill nets. They are supposed to use state-supplied trap nets, but the state never came up with the equipment, so the tribes said to Hell with it. Gill nets catch and kill anything, but trap nets allow smaller species to escape.

On the one hand, they do have the right to fish but weren't given the trap nets from the state. On the other hand, they aren't fishing in "traditional" subsistence methods like their ancestors - which was the purpose. They are as commercial as anyone. Hard to find a good guy/bad guy. Both sides have merits and flaws.

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I guess that freezer full of salmon I have now has some value.

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I got five on it.

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Abntv, I do that, too. I buy wild salmon during the summer season when it's on sale for $9.99 a lb. and fill up the freezer. I eat it twice a week. Best source of Omega-3. The Atlantic (farm-raised) salmon is actually bad for you because it does not have the healthy ratio of AA and ELA (fatty acids) that the wild kind does.

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I dont buy it. I catch it. I put over 50 Sockeye in my freezer last season.

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Lucky you.

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Wow, I tip my hat to you, sir. Lucky man!

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"a decision that is expected to have a devastating economic impact on fishermen, dozens of businesses, tourism and boating."

And bring happiness to all realms of the salmon world who find no pleasure in being everyone's favourite dinner - not to mention the utter indignity of being fed to domestic cats!

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Calif has not learned their lesson from Washington. They do not listen to the people telling them how to manage the habitat. Calif will destroy their fishery if they dont stop using it as a political toy.

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whoops. meant to neg the spam post

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Here we are talkin bout some good Salmon and you try to feed us some spam? Ewww! Get outta here!

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Don't worry, you won't see that chub in these waters anymore.

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My bet is they get a waiver

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Earthjustice Beats Back Cheney Klamath Interference

"The 10-year water diversion plan went into effect in 2002 with then Interior Secretary Gale Norton and then Agriculture Secretary, Anne Veneman, joined by Senator Gordon Smith, presiding over a ceremonial ribbon cutting at the headgates of the main water diversion canal in the upper Klamath basin. The ribbon cutting marked the commencement of the new Cheney water plan that tipped the balance towards irrigators and eventually robbed salmon-dependent communities of their bread and butter. The Cheney plan resulted in a 2002 salmon kill of about 70,000 salmon, the worst human-induced fish kill ever recorded on the West Coast."

mmmmmmmmmmmmm....

Now heres a case where the chickens don't come home to roost!

http://www.earthjustice.org/news/press/007/eart...

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Leaving No Tracks

In Oregon, a battleground state that the Bush-Cheney ticket had lost by less than half of 1 percent, drought-stricken farmers and ranchers were about to be cut off from the irrigation water that kept their cropland and pastures green. Federal biologists said the Endangered Species Act left the government no choice: The survival of two imperiled species of fish was at stake.

Law and science seemed to be on the side of the fish. Then the vice president stepped in.

First Cheney looked for a way around the law, aides said. Next he set in motion a process to challenge the science protecting the fish, according to a former Oregon congressman who lobbied for the farmers.

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Because of Cheney's intervention, the government reversed itself and let the water flow in time to save the 2002 growing season, declaring that there was no threat to the fish. What followed was the largest fish kill the West had ever seen, with tens of thousands of salmon rotting on the banks of the Klamath River.

Characteristically, Cheney left no tracks.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/...

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Total crap and biased reports as I live in the area I whole heartedly refer to your posts as spam.

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"Total crap and biased reports as I live in the area I whole heartedly refer to your posts as spam."

Especially when the VP has zero legislative or executive powers.

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"What followed was the largest fish kill the West had ever seen,"

Your right, it turned 75.000 fish into spam!

Typical right'y comment " I don't need no stink'n facts! "

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Bullsh*t get the facts you left piece a crap

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Actually, it's true. Salmon are a cold water fish. When they hit low river temperatures because of a water diversion to farmers, which left the levels low and warmer, the fish died. I remember the fight over letting the water levels drop, and I remember this administration fighting to do just that.

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The warm water does not kill the fish. What it does is reduce or totally destroy the brood.

However not all salmon are effected by water temperatures.

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Damn, I love to smoke Salmon steaks on the grill. Guess I'll have to go back to Mahi Mahi for a while.

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Yeh I like to smoke salmon also.

I do have a real problem wrapping them in those little papers and keeping them lit though

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I use some of the tin foil from my older hats. Just add a little olive oil, lemon juice, garlic and thinly sliced onions. YUM!

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Here's a link to many articles on the Salmon problem. It's a mess.

http://www.hcn.org/archivesbysubject.jsp?subjec...

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So it amounts to a conflict between farmers and fishermen. Farmers always have more political influence.

I wonder why they can't put in fish ladders. Seems like that's a good solution.

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In case anyone wonders what the hell I mean by "fish ladders," weirs and dams have bypass "ladders" allowing migrating fish to jump from one level to the next and bypass the dams/weirs and continue their natural migrations.

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The blame is pointed at the northern california farmers but the real problem is the diversion of water from northern california to southen california. If southern california was not stealing all that water there would be far less of an issue.

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